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Topic Title: Way Points - Beacon Ships (Simple Topic)

Topic starter: Vicandius

Topic started: 12:35:23 26th Oct 2021

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Vicandius Posted: 12:35:23 26th Oct 2021

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This has been brought up in the past, but rehashing it. With the removal of being able to type in coordinates, it makes it a pain to go to a custom location (at least for me). I use to always park my tranny at some location like 7 7 747, which was easy to type in, now I leave it at a planet because I don't want to try and type the colons. Could set the unnamed ship that is in the system as a way point marker that shows up in a separate hyperspace and i-flight menu. Or you could have them show up in the same one, wouldn't think people would want too many of them, but some people are weird. But it is a beacon ship that allows your ships to jump to it or i-flight to it. This allows for ease of creating rally points for setting up attacks or moving ships that are trained, or whatever, instead of having to type in the number if it is something you use on a regular basis.


revenge Posted: 15:57:06 26th Oct 2021

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did ya park one there full of goodies for me? darn whole lot of nothing there


Iiridayn Posted: 00:07:12 28th Oct 2021

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I strongly agree that invisible ships should be on the list of easy hyperjump targets.

i didn't remove the ability to type in coordinates; are colons difficult to type on your computer? I can probably easily make it more flexible if I need to. The intent was to make it easy to type and paste coordinates; not trading one for the other.




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H911Reiver Posted: 19:34:52 28th Oct 2021

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I don't think it's that colons are difficult to type, but more so that colons are flow breaking compared to tabbing.

To be clear, I do really like that copy pasting is a thing, but I ALSO lament the loss of being able to tab between coordinate boxes while typing in specific numbers. That being said if I had to choose between the two I'd take copy paste.

My ship parking method since coming back has been to use coordinates that I can quickly and easily type in the first few digits (so longer than 1 digit like cajin's first number) and let autocomplete handle the rest.

I also like the invisible ship as jump target idea, though possibly a separate tabbed option? An overhaul to the hyperjump menu for example that implemented it with tabs that don't require a fresh page load that has three tabs for entering coordinates, planet targets, and ship targets.

Additionally, I've noticed there's a bug with the copy-paste coord implementation where if you enter coordinates outside of the valid universe, you just get a generic server error page. In the old tab-to-enter system, entering coordinates outside the valid range would have them reduced to the maximum acceptable value instead. It'd be nice if we could either get the old functionality reimplemented, or a custom error screen that informs users that they've entered an invalid coordinate and what the valid range of values is.




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Vicandius Posted: 16:48:08 29th Oct 2021

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Ya, I can type colons, I just can't type colons on my number pad, which is what I usually use for numbers, so it becomes type number, look at keyboard to move to the colon... - now if could use periods as a separator in addition to colons- or something else off of the number pad, then that would work


Zerohours Posted: 21:42:06 31st Oct 2021

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Periods would work. I have the same problem. Colon is a shift+Colon button which is just clunky when you consider you are doing it 10-500 times a day.




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Karil130 Posted: 21:45:30 31st Oct 2021

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I think / would work better then . would but just my opinion


Iiridayn Posted: 00:50:02 1st Nov 2021

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@H911Reiver I'm designing first for the non-JS case, and will improve things later, so avoiding a page load will eventually come (yes, can do CSS tabs and maybe I should just... I'll look into it.)

Regarding a secondary separator, I agree w/"/" more than "." since "." already has a meaning in the context of numbers, and "/" is commonly used for separators already.




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Iiridayn Posted: 01:37:48 1st Nov 2021

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Anybody who speaks Lithuanian, please verify or fix this google translation (or reword to be clearer): "atskirkite x,y,z koordinates : arba /"




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Iiridayn Posted: 01:51:53 1st Nov 2021

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@H911Reiver Re bug for copy-paste coords outside valid universe - please post or send me a PM/DM (if sensitive) of a string that triggers a server error; "55555555:5555555:555" doesn't trigger it, just sends you back to the space page as intended.




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H911Reiver Posted: 10:12:05 1st Nov 2021

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Not sensitive

34125:-8715:1846 For example works

It send you to an error page saying the server is unable to handle your request




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