This is somewhat tying in with the Sadam issues.

Question: Should murderers be given life in jail (with or without parole) or given the deatn penalty?

My personal opinion is that they should just be put to death. I've heard that in most prisons convicts get to workout in a gym, watch cable/satelite T.V., use the internet, and many other things while in prison, and who pays for that? us. the tax payers, now what I don't understanfd is why do they get all the comforst of living a normal life when they are supposed to be in trouble and being punished? It really jst doesn't make sense, and to tie this in with the murder topic why are we rewarding convicts like murders by puting them in jail?

(yes I know I probably mispelled thousands of words lol )

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Now, prison and jail are two different things.

Make 'em work, and make sure they have difficult living environments, so they will find out their mistakes, and it will give other murders a second thought, instead of I shoot him, I die, it will be I shoot him, I work long hours for next to nothing and live in a dump the rest of my life.

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I am not against the death penalty. But I dont mind if they give out life sentences. I'd think life in prison would be worse, but that's just me.

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pray is right.. prison and jail are totally different.. jail is mostly for petty crimes.. nothin bad enough for a judge to have the option of death... in jail its more of the laid back, do ur time get outa jail thing... in prison it is hard... u dont get to watch tv.. u dont get to do anything except: wake up... go to breakfast... go outside for recreation (if u have been on good behavior) and go back in and later go to bed... they want ppl to work and have recreation out so they stay physically and mentaly fit enough to be in prison... wats the point in sendin someone to prison if they will just end up to unhealthy or to insane to stay alive?... defeats the purpose... and even when u do go out to recreation its not fun... u still have to deal with the other stone-cold killers and psycopaths out there... ppl are stabed and strangled everyday... jail might be a pushover.. but prison isnt.. and i kno all this stuff is true because my biological dad just got outa prison after 12 yrs and told me all about it

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Yes but why pay for them to be there? Why pay guards to risk their lives? Why place other bad but recoverable people in harm's way? After they are dead they will cause no more problems nor hurt anyone else ever again. If you want to be fair let them be killed in the same way that they killed their victim. That way it may be some sort of deterant. It may be more gratifying to torture them for the rest of their lives, but they will still have their lives to live

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The cost of death penalty in USA is very high, and there have been multiple cases of convicted murderers later proven to be innocent with the real murderer is later found. The person sentenced and killed was not actually guilty. This is rare, but it happens.

If they were sentenced to life in prison, you can appologise and let them free. If they were wrongfully convicted and then killed, there is not much you can do about the mistake then.

In the US system of justice, there is a strong bias towards not making people who are innocent suffer from wrongful convictions. Death penalty is inconsistent with that objective since you are never 100% certain whether someone might have been mistakenly convicted. (The standard for conviction is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, not guilty for certain).

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bert ur missing the whole point of sentencing... ppl go to trial to find out their punishment... they are punished to learn from their actions... and wat good is killing them gonna do when u dont learn from anything?... ever heard of the phrase "ill make u wish you were dead" ... ya well thats wat should be done... work them so hard so they are barely surviving... and give em those injections that induce abnormally harsh pain... so long as u keep em alive


ps... i am ReaperOfSouls90 and i approve of Professors post.... lol

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People sentence to life without parole can learn what that will help? Yes rarely people sentenced to death are wrongfully convicted. But why keep around someone who is 100% guilty either by admission or evidence beyond the wildest reason of doubt? Oh something like, If your on video shooting a convience clerk?

We will never be able to work/Torture those who deserve it. Our own laws and liberals work against us The easiest and best case would be to put them somewhere they can never hurt anyone ever again. My wife's cousin is a Guard, there was a riot that reached a max section and he was almost beaten to death by someone who was never see the light of day ever again. He was locked away and managed to hurt an innocent person who was just there doing his job. The guy who led his and a couple of other guards beatings had been sentenced to life w/o parole and then moved to max security after he killed a paroleable inmate. How fair is that? he was supposed to be there to keep him safe from society and he still was able to hurt others.....




Nice debate but there will never be a happy medium. Even if we had a foolproof lie detector system we still couldn't use it without the defendant's consent. The system is supposed to help protect the innocent and punish the wrongdoers. all too often it is used to hurt those who have been wronged by not sentencing. Personal responsibility it seems is dead. I am not at fault it was my "pick most appropriate socital flaw" that made me do it.

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tell me 1 thing.. how come in ur first paragraph u show no remorse for the innocent yet in the 2nd u try to make a statement about their safty to justify ur idea?

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I have always maintained that it be used when there is no possible reason of doubt

IF they did it. Why keep them when they can be a danger to others? When you are bit by a mosquito and see it bite you do you swat it? When someone takes anothers life, no amount of prison will bring that person back. Let the punishment fit the crime

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