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McGrime Posted: 08:43:21 24th Dec 2006

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The live coverage of the incident which was boradcast over here in england just after the first crash i think, and please correct me if im wrong, showed the second plane colliding with the second tower




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aretard023 Posted: 09:23:13 24th Dec 2006

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^^Your correct.




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ReaperOfSouls90 Posted: 12:42:59 24th Dec 2006

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grime im not doubting that "a" plane hit the tower.. im just doubting that it was whichever one had all the passengers... and 4cYLYn6 for ur examples...

1. y is it so hard to believe that 200 ppl were held captive for 5 yrs? ppl are prolly still held captive from the korean war over in korea or and other battles...
2. tell me which one ur talking about cuz theres tons of evidence
3. how is that bashing them? lol... he never said anything disrespectful to or about them... he just said that from the stuff he has seen that those ppl were actually evucuated from that plane b4 it crashed... i mean ya if u believe in wat the government says then u would think it would b mean to say ppl who died fighting for their lives didnt really do it but he doesnt believe wat the government has told us and neither do i.. so he wasnt disrespecting any of them..

and lastly, aretard

i believe that the government created this attack on the peoples emotions to gain support in going to iraq... and i believe that those ppl are still bein held captive (and this doesnt mean they r sittin in jail cells or somthin.. the government could have them on some luxorious island and waitin on their every need for helping plan and exicute this)... i really dont believe that all this was an attack from osama.. and all the resistance in iraq, their not fighting for terrorism... their fighting cuz we are attacking them for no reason... but these r just my beliefs.. believe em if u want.. i really dont care




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Wynn Sol Posted: 17:50:55 24th Dec 2006

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So the American gov't murdered/kidnapped 3000 people from 50+ countries to justify a war they had no chance of winning...




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ReaperOfSouls90 Posted: 18:27:31 24th Dec 2006

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hard as it may seem yes... first of all how could they have no chance of winning the war? lol.. we are one of the strongest military powers in the world... and do u notice how this also gained support from other countries? coincidence? ... and dont u see wat the government gains if we win this war?... tons of free oil (gives the government more money)... the government has the motives to do it... its just that its so hard to believe because it is our government.. in charge of leading us... the irs seemed hard to believe too.. but now its a law.. there is nothin in the constitution that says we have to pay it... but we do anyways.. and its all cuz anyone in the business/politics world will sell their soul for cash... cash = corruption... the irs brought tons of cash for those ppl... and they agreed to it... winning this war would bring tons of cash to them.. so they agreed to it.. see any connection?




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Wynn Sol Posted: 20:11:37 24th Dec 2006

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I don't so much have a problem believing they'd be willing to do it if they thought it was in their best interest, and they could get away with it. I do have a problem believing the rest of the world wouldn't catch on and do something about it...

"first of all how could they have no chance of winning the war? "

I was referring to the "war on terror" as a whole. For every terrorist killed there is at least one more inspired to take up arms.




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aretard023 Posted: 21:09:55 24th Dec 2006

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The problem with your argument is your statement that says "they're only fighting because we attacked them". You obviously dont know much about terrorists. They fight because they are commanded to. We are infidels, who must not be allowed to live. They spent they're whole lives learning how to kill us. It's highly irrational.




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ReaperOfSouls90 Posted: 21:26:30 24th Dec 2006

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i kno terrorist attack ppl cuz their leaders command em too.. but the leaders command em to cuz the leaders believe alah or whoever thinks they r bad ppl... terrorist havnt done anything to the us lately... and never said anything about the us.. the terrorist have been busy messin wit iran and those surrounding countries...

wynn you realize theres more then just being able to have a reason to go over there... also our allies who are helping wit the war on terror dont like terrorist either... barely anyone in the world does... so if its a choice to believe that the us (one of the most powerful nations) did it, or the terrorist (ppl who barely anyone likes) did it who would you believe?... the government realized this.. and played it to their advantage... its really not that complicated if u think about it... the government saw all these open possibilities and, being the money hungry ppl they are, acted on it...




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Wynn Sol Posted: 21:38:37 24th Dec 2006

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".. so if its a choice to believe that the us (one of the most powerful nations) did it, or the terrorist (ppl who barely anyone likes) did it who would you believe?..."

Lol although you haven't convinced me, I do see your point. :P

Anyhoo, we could argue bout this til hell freezes over and, it's unlikely any of us will change our minds so, i'm goin back to probing for a bit then goin to bed.




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ReaperOfSouls90 Posted: 21:46:05 24th Dec 2006

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ya this subject is to emotional and it would take a miracle to change someones mind... but its just like religion and evolution.. theres no solid evidence for either but both r strongly believed in.... but hey thanks for debatin wit me about it.. most ppl will just say "ROS im not even going to dignify that video with the honour of watching it" (sound familiar SS? :D) and not even bother challenging their belief in it




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