a movie about global warming
its scary... rent and watch it

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The Art of War

But highly exaggerated.

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NO MORE GLOABL WARMING ARGGGGGGGGGgg

Sorry but in Acadeca thats the main focus of the stupid Super Quiz

Plus I dont think humans are causing global warming anyways

Who is?

Must be them wild animals....

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Here it goes. If anybody wants to here my views on global warming, step right up, pull up a chair, and grab some popcorn....

Al Gore, testily presents his movie as a direct inconvience to the world. While as a matter of fact, global warming could have good effects if it may happen- do we even have proof that it is even happening? Can we trust any data released to the public?

I. Causes of Global Warming
A. The Sun-
The sun, located in the center of our solar system, keeps temperatures at moderate temperatures throught the Earth. If gives off many types of rays, some harmful to humans, especially those with sensitive skin. It has 11 year cycles of sunspots, or changes of its activity. When the sunspot number is higher, the activity is lower, meaning less violent rays reach the Earth, causing for a generally cooler climate - and vise versa. So now, we look at a graph of the current intensity of the sun, and what is this?! Is it actaually...decreasing?!

http://newsletter.carterobservatory.org/August04/sunspots_full.jpg -Look here for the graph.

B. Greenhouse Gases-
There are many greenhouse gases, CO2 (Carbon Dioxide), CH4 (Methane), Nitrous Oxide, many types of CFCs, and....water vapor?
Wait, water vapor? How come scientist say that CO2 is the main cause? Are they trying to blame humans on this global warming effect? Water vapor is indeed a natural occuring greenhouse gas. What is a greenhouse gas anyways? A greenhouse gas is a gas that produces a greenhouse effect on the Earth. Greenhouses deplete the ozone layer, so the harmful sunlight can reach Earth, but they also trap heat into the Earth, so it does not escape - causing temperatures to rise. So we should rid of all of the greenhouse gases and hope that the Earth does not heat, yes? NO. We cannot live without these, or the Earth will freeze up. Some greenhouse gases are let out naturally by lifecycles of plants, animals, ect. But others are let out by factories, human emissions, and yes....cow farts (they produce methane believe it or not). Humans account for .028% of the global warming effect from these emissions. Crazy eh, to believe that we are the main source, while 90-95% pf it is naturally occuring water vapor.

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html - Look here to see the natural/manmade emissions of some greenhouse gases.

II. Can we trust this Data?
A. Stations -
How are the so-called facts presented? Where is the global temperatures taken from? Can we trust it? What could effect the temperature of that region? Those are all questions we have to ask ourselves when looking at specific data. How reliable is it?

http://www.cmdl.noaa.gov/aggi/aggi-web-fig1.png- Look here for a list of the NOAAs global warming monitoring stations.

B. Urban Heat Island Effect -
If stations took their data in major cities, there is something called the Urban Heat Island Effect, that may effect this greatly. It is usually 6-8 degrees Fahrenheit warmer in the cities, than in rural areas. Why is this? Dark surfaces such as roads, and rooftops absorb heat. Also, there is no vegitation to produce fresh, clean oxygen. So that is why it is stuffy in the cities. If the data was taken here, it is definatly misleading.

http://eetd.lbl.gov/HeatIsland/LEARN/ - Look here for more information on the Urban Heat Island Effect

C. Islands and Coasts -
Why is it always cooler on the coastlines than in other areas? Chicao is named the windy city, and is located on the edge of the Great Lakes, and is blisteringly cold, not only due to position, but also the wind from coasts. A land breeze, or a sea breeze takes place causing a drop in temperature. So would the temperatures by the stations on Islands altered because of this, would they not be cooler?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_breeze#Land_Breeze - Look here for information on land breezes and sea breezes.

D. Amount of Data -
Scientists can only accurately display about 125 years of global temperatures, some environmentalists only have 40 years of data. Is this, compared to the lifespan of the Earth, enough to say that the Earth is actaually warming? Was it not a decade or less ago, that everybody was worried about global cooling?

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/GlobalWarm1999/Images/1999_fig3.gif - Look here for the trend of the past 125 years of global warming data.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8398 - Look here for a previously written article of global cooling

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III. Potential Effects

A. Hurricanes -
After hurricane Katrina hit Louisiania, many people thought that global warming was related to the strength of hurricanes. Global Temperatures rise, water temperatures rise, strength of hurricanes increase, amount of hurricanes increase, reasonable, correct? So that is why there was less hurricanes this year, than any other year?

http://vortex.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/hurricane/facts/hurr_chart.gif

....Too lazy to type more, I will update later.
Anybody up for a Stem Cell Research debate now?

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Wow. You are 14 and a whole lot smarter then me.

Go ahead and tell me your thoughts on Stem Cells. I love to read - if plenty of pictures to explain it all. Type!

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Degree in Geography, spcialized in Climatlogy (study of climate)

That was very well done pray

For a short synopsis

Yes the earth does heat up.
Yes certain gases in the atmosphere can hinder or accelerte this heating
YES it is very likley industrialisation has had an effect on climate
NO we have NO idea what that effect is going to be in the end (short term is SEEMS to be warming the planet)

The reality is we have not been recording data long enougth to understand short term trends in climate variaton.

The whole term "climate change" is ridiculous. The climate changes all the time...the idea you can stop "climate change" if just plain idiotic, but such is marketing and the mass media. Two interesting cases in point.

The 1970s were extremely cold, and a globally tempatures were declining, the scientific community was prediciting the RAPID start of another ice age! The headlines in TIMES magazine (I forget the month and year) were, you guessed it ICE AGE.

In Victorian times (mid 1850s) the globe went through what is commonly called "The Little Ice Age", you could skate on the River Thames in London (there are pitures of this!

One of my favourite topics that Pray hit on, extreme weather...the most severe hurricanes have all occured during periods of BELOW what we now call normal temperatures (this is ineresting because common hurricans can only form if sea surface tempatures are at a minum

80 degrees F (using F for all the americans who get baffled by C) Common theory is that warmer water means more energy for the hurricane to use to form...only data does not really support this. You can go to the National Hurrican Center's website and see this data for yourself.

The last 100yrs (a meaningless time period geographically) the worst storm as measured by lowest air pressure was in 1935, off the Florida Keys (26.35millibars) while the costliest (ones that did the most damage to property! were in un-rationalized dollars Hurricane Andrew in 1992 at 26 billion (over 12 years ago) and in rationalized dollars (were the value of the dollar is taken into account at the given time so you are comparing apples to apples) a hurricane that hit South East Florida in 1926 which would have doen the equivalent of 72 billion dollars!

Anyway I could go on for long time.

What bugs the crap out of me is governments spending billions trying to stop something that is by it's very nature a unstoppable. The message should not be STOP CLIMATE CHANGE but F$%%^&!!G STOP POLLUTING!

Dumping crap into the atmosphere is definetly bad for our health, you can't argue that!

Go see glaciers before they melt though...they are spectacular and cool...and melting fast lol

I was born 15 days before Hurricane Andrew hit.
I had lived in Florida my whole life, been through numerous hurricanes (4 last year = 2 weeks off school for nothing)

We just left the Little Ice Age, or so we think, and so would it not be reasonable for the Earth to be warming, if we are leaving a cold period?

Yeah, you cannot stop a natural process. I would be amazed if we could. Hey, when a hurricane comes, I say we dump a HUGE ice cube into the ocean around it, so the water cools, and pressure drops, less hurricane strength. That is the only reasonable way, as Al Gore would mention.


Polluting is the real problem. We are wasting our rescources, and harming ourselves in more ways that we even know of. We do need to switch to other fuel sources, not because of the output of greenhouse gases, but because we are running scarce on some, and they are predicted to run out within this century.

Also, is the temperature of the Earth lower than its normal average? Is it like 50 Degrees F now and 52 Degrees F naturally? I am not so sure...

..If anybody has points saying global warming IS happening, and humans DO cause it, I would love to hear.

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*pictures a giant ice cube being droped next to a hurricane*

hmm

*pictures little kids throwing ice cubes at hurricanes*

yeah i see ur point of the whole big ice cube thing

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