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Dregnaought Posted: 11:38:40 30th Jun 2006

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There is no questions that creatures change.
Most poeple get four wisdom teeth, some get none.
However there has not been a record of a new genis or spiece in recorded history.
This is my issue with the concept of evalution as taught.
Humans (for example) are less prepared genticly for survivial. So it is not evalution that we see but de-evalution.
Also if one compares the DNA of creatures it is claimed that man could not of evalued from any of the chains (branches) of life that Darwin taught for our ansesters, but reather from a pig.
Medical science shows this is true, that is why the transplanets from apes failed, but a human heart repacement could be grown in a hog (in thoery).
Evalution as taught is nothing more then a tall tale made up for poeple to believe. It is not science.


interiority Posted: 13:26:44 30th Jun 2006

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ok there are two words. one is evaluation and means to asess something. the other spelled evolution is the process of the creation of species by random mutation and natural selection. evalution is not a word, please stop saying it.

secondly shut up and go read a book. it'd do you good to learn and understand something for once instead of simply dismissing everything out of hand.




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 08:45:53 3rd Jul 2006

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i would just like to say the octopus came first :D




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Alpha Code Posted: 18:56:01 5th Jul 2006

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:censored: idiot ..........................



the squid came first :D




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 04:24:51 6th Jul 2006

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no i believe the octopus did and the squid evolved from the octopus :D as everyone knows the things that evolve from other things are cooler so naturally the squid is a later version of the octopus :D

*btw i know thats probably wrong but im bored*




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Alpha Code Posted: 05:19:02 6th Jul 2006

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but i so agree :] lol




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Shadow Stalker Posted: 06:36:15 6th Jul 2006

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:D




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Dregnaought Posted: 09:29:40 17th Jul 2006

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"secondly shut up and go read a book. it'd do you good to learn and understand something for once instead of simply dismissing everything out of hand."
What book would you recomend?

It is interesting to me that you assume that I am the one with a closed mind.

Maybe that is so.

But more often then not it is those who have not learned how much they do not know that have the most closed mind.

As I was told (and learned) the more we know the more we know we don't know.

I will admit I don't know much because I have learned much.

The more questions that I get answers too only leaves me with more questions.


interiority Posted: 17:06:36 17th Jul 2006

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jesus dude. you in advertising or something?

...perhaps my chai isnt in balance with my gud and all that kinda bs

[read: richard dawkins - the selfish gene]




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c0aliti0ns Posted: 12:57:35 18th Jul 2006

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NB:In this rant chicken refers to both the male & the female of the species.

A species is defined as a group of related organisms that share a more or less distinctive form and are capable of interbreeding. This means the first organism that could breed with modern checkens was a chicken. However it is likely this chicken could have breed with its parents species as well, thus that organisim can be said to be part of two distinct species(or populations that can interbreed ). part chicken part somthing else. There would have been but since to continue its liniage of "chicken ness"(since there were no chickens at the time) it would have had to breed with non chickens which therefore its offsping may not have been a chicken\s. Can you then call that organisim (that came from an egg possibly i wasnt there at the time)a chicken. If it was the only one of its kind it would not have been part of a population of chickens that could interbreeed with its self & therefore not a chicken at that time. the first chicken would have had to be 2 to have a population that can breed with its self & modern chicken. This could be two eggs or a chicken & an egg as long as one is male & the other is female. This is from an evolutionary point of view. It may have occured a different way

But this is absolutely pointless because the answer doesnt have to chickens or eggs at all but our definition of a word. It does however show how the chicken & the egg are inseperable how they are not 2 but 1 & how like so many things in nature & with people when one thing is true then so is another where there is a fool there is folly, as soon as one is true so is the other(an egg can not interbreed with anything but the chicken inside can after a while because the egg is a nonliving protective shell & the living the living chicken inside). Another example might be where there is an answer that is not known for certain there is debate & conjecture. & the movment of debate onto the nature & validity of the evidance when/if it appears.

And dregnought I see your point(on evaluation) & agree with you. But noone else is respnsible for my actions appart from me & how can I decide the right way without evaluating the evidance. The only other option i can see(I may have missed some that I havent thought of) is to mindlessly follow what i have been told by others(who my not know the truth or may be deceptive), to not follow anything at all(very hard) or to follow instictive & or random thoughts that enter my mind without thinking about them. I may as well make the best choice possible as long as i admit I may be wrong & am open to new ideas & evidance which I can then evaluate & ammend my ideas as nessecary.




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