Could be worse you could be from a third world country and have it be 10-20 times more expensive.

If it was based upon Lith Currency all that would mean is that those buying with $'s would be able to buy 3x as many credits for the same price. So no matter what we would have the same problem.

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maybe different price for lith? though could become complicated

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that not it... buying Creds is fine.... Rukna altready addressed Maxx's point.... It would be fine if the people that spent creds got certain comforts that non credit buyers didnt have..... say an auto harvester... or if they were only able to buy just upgrades with Creds.... of the ycould have the use of the "comander" for any of those who say the option for the new ship desing... or stuff like that... but at the current... people that buy creds use them to buy recs which then translates into them getting more points which makes them seem like better players... which is nonsense.... just because you spend money on a game it doesnt mean you should be ranked higher..... and thats the problem peope are having... problem isnt with the market..... the only problem with the market is the caps.. which is a whole other issue.... all that needs to be done is to limit the number of cred able to be bouhgt... or better yet.. held... per round.... but Proff keep scoming up with his irrational solutions.... like splitting the currency.... thats a step backward.. cuz then people would be scrambling once again to get creds to get upgrades.... if that change is implemented.... cred buyers wil have basically twice as much strenght as regular non paying members.... which would either increase cred buying orhvae a lot of people quit... or have a split communtiy or have a total change in the community of people that play SL... either wayy that suggestion has one conclusion.... chaos.....
but what can I say?..... its possible to think youre "two" smart....








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Litts do not need a different price...if so we'll need wealth declarations one day going this way

Mom understands the issue well. Market is a wonderfull feature. Nothing wrong with him except those caps.

I understand my vision is too much work to do. At least make so everyone who spend money spend equal amount and put a label in the profile of "game donator" or "peremium member" or smth.

The fact that amount of money collected strongly decreased after discussions began is acctually a very interesting thing. As well as the fact that till now i heard only Thabin who admitted straight about money spent and therefore i respect his opinion about all this. I even caught watupdogg lying he never bought any credits. So that's just strange. Many players see nothing wrong in today situation but are ashamed of their position? At least it looks so.

I'm not donating the game not because of lack of money or limited ability to do it. I don't spend money because i know my competitors don't. I hardly imagine how a competition excitement can be felt after starting the race in front of the others at the starting line.

I understand there are players who do not play SL with the purpose of competition. They do not capture other's Hw's and etc. They simply try to stay alive or build something nice and be a part of a great community we have. And they don't even need the upgrades. I don't mind when such players buy credits to buy some planets later or recover after Hw lost or smth. But in fact most of players are competitors. And i simply don't understand how the competition can be interesting and what the pride of victories can be felt when you use money while others don't.

I guess i wouldn't leave SL if there would be a little common fee for everyone. I don't see anything wrong in paying for a game. It's a free time activity and good free time activities usually cost money. But it doesn't look nice when people feel they can simply compensate the lack of power gained buy opening a wallet and still feel they deserve the results achieved. And then take awards, nominations, respect as nothing hapenned.

As for changes "average time spent" could be a very nice feature. There are games which count logins number as a public information, (as Astrowars) but they require only seconds after loggin. Would be nice to hear from Iriidayn whether such "average time spent" is impossible to make and we could vote then

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Taken.... I do believe the question about wether there shouldbe a spending linit wouldve been better phrased or better suited to solve the problem if it had said... should there be a limit on how many creds can be held/owned per rpund... cuz then all it realy takes is... 2-3 rounds of saving up and youll be in the position to buy half the marrket which would result in the same thing.....n but I appreciate the fact thats its up there to begin with... thanks for the survey proff... I look forward to the results....








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So maybe solution here is not to give points for the amount of resources being held on each planet. I think just the interest alone is reward enough for this. And just so everyone knows.... yes I buy credits...not in large sums..... and since the market came online I haven't had to spend real money for them...... I use these credits not only for upgrades but also to buy resources. I am not ashamed of this, as in war U do what it takes to survive. My only interest is defense...... However should I be provoked I certainly would not hesitate to use such advantage to kick the shit out of whoever is messing with me I think the Market has also did a great service to the Liths as now they don't have to spend 3x the money for credits either if they just sell their resources instead. This brings me back to the original point, Why fix it if it's not broken? And maybe I don't understand this whole time spent thing: Shouldn't someone that spends say 3 hours a day on Sl be stronger and higher in the points than someone who spends 3 hours a week? Enlighten me maybe I am misunderstanding this debate

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*Maxxx its not about anything being broken... Market is fine.... its the uninhibited buying of creds thats the prob... people gain "titlles" due to amount of points they have.... why that is is another issue.... wiht those titles come respect... we feel that respect shoul dbe earned not bought.... or be related to monetary or financial standings in anyway... cuz obviously thats just not fair... and yeah the world isnt fair... but like Drenought said... he likes to come and escape from RL for a bit whenever he plays and points being affected by how much money you spend on the game is too much of a smack-in-the-face of what the Real World is like.....

the time spent isnt a debate its just a topiic of interest... and in truth.. If we all had the same level of skill then time would directly afect our scores.... siimply because you being on longer would naturall ymean you dod more... but this isnt the case... different players have different methods of play... some are more adept at what they do than others.. so they take less time... then you have to cosider server and connection speed and the lot... and Iiri already explained the pains of trying to document tiume spnet online as it would be quite an impure and tainted source of stats.. soo.... what can I say... It would be nice but... meh .... so much for that....









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Ok it's starting to make sense now

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It would be simply interesting to see. No rankings or something else involved here.
That's just a thought. Iiridayn already told it's too hard to make.

"and since the market came online I haven't had to spend real money for them...... I use these credits not only for upgrades but also to buy resources"

No one is offering to get rid of credits. Credits gained by selling resources is absolutely a nice thing Whether to buy upgrades or to buy resources. But when people who have a permanent 50 planet limit and are more than enough active still need to buy credits for real money to achieve advantage against others is actually pretty nasty.

I'd simply like to see that those who spent money all buy equal amount of credits and there would be a simple label in their profile that they donate a game. That's all. As in other games.

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